From Detroit Cop to Filmmaker with Chad Richardson

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Larry (00:07):

You are listening to specifically for Seniors, a podcast designed for a vibrant and diverse senior community. I'm your host, Dr. Larry Barsh. Join me in a lineup of experts as we discuss a wide variety of topics that will empower, inform, entertain, and inspire as we celebrate the richness and wisdom of this incredible stage of life.

Larry (00:40):

One of the things I like best about doing this podcast is that it gives me the opportunity to meet and talk with some remarkable people who've done exceptional things, especially after retirement. My guest today on specifically for seniors is one of those people who went from 31 years in law enforcement to film making. Let me introduce you all to Chad Richardson. Chad, it's a pleasure to have you on, specifically for seniors.

Chad Richardson (01:14):

Thank you, Larry. And it's an honor to be on your show. I really appreciate it.

Larry (01:19):

Let's start with your career. What, what branch of law enforcement were you in?

Chad Richardson (01:25):

So, I, I come from a long line of police, fire, military. That's what our family line does. We are raised to believe in public service into helping other people. And my father was a police officer. My brother snatched up firefighter first, so he, he got the job that you don't do anything for 25 years. So he, he scored pretty well. And and then I signed on at a metro Detroit police department called City of Warren, which is on the northern border of Detroit. That's where my father was a police officer. And then I served 25 years there. So,

Larry (02:03):

And then after that special investigator,

Chad Richardson (02:08):

Yeah, so I tried retirement, like we just talked about. I can't stand retirement. I finished the Honey Do list in about three months. And as soon as I retired, actually, I, so going back a moment is when I was, I grew up, I loved to write, I absolutely loved to write. I studied journalism in high school and college, and I wanted to my plan was to go around the world and write about my journeys at, when I was young, my father felt that was a very foolish idea and guided me into police work as a more stable line of work. So, when I retired in 2013, I mean, I, I immediately started writing in my spare time. So my wife and I, we have six kids, so, you know, my wife comes first, my children come first, and then when I can you know, like I get up at four in the morning and write for two or three hours before I start making breakfast for all the kids.

Chad Richardson (03:07):

Be, you know, getting 'em off to school. And but I'm a workaholic so that I, I needed more and I needed, I needed, you know, you needed a, a i identity besides raising kids and being a good husband. Not that that's not a bad thing. And so I, I kept getting recruited to be a special investigator for the Department of Defense at, at the time it was actually the US Office of Personnel Management. And so I contracted in with them and started doing background investigations at a national level and traveled around the country, which I really enjoyed. I loved traveling. I went to some great places, met some amazing people. And so I did that for six years. And then on the side of that, I started getting any job I could get in the movie industry or TV industry.

Chad Richardson (03:57):

So just so I could be on set. And I think you're the same way, Larry, is that I'm not afraid to talk to anybody. I'm not afraid to ask any question at all to anybody. So even I don't care if I get fired or not, because that's the, the goal is to learn the art of filmmaking. So I would go on sets and I'd pick the brains of everybody. E every single person. I could pick their brain, I would, so building my knowledge base, but I, I'll, I'll tell you, I gotta tell you a funny story 'cause you'll, you'll relate to this. So, when I was an investigator, I, I went out to California and I had to do investigations there for a couple months. And I was lucky enough to meet a Stanford neuroscientist. And what I like to do is if, if I meet an extraordinary person, I'll say, Hey, after this official interview, can I, can I meet, talk with you after, and just ask you questions about your life, your career?

Chad Richardson (04:54):

And, you know, 'cause I'm a very curious person. And so I had this interview, this neuroscientist, and he walks in and he is about 78, 80 years old. Lean has the most piercing, most intelligent eye blue eyes that I I've ever seen in my life. It just radiated intelligence. And so I said, Hey sir, can I once we're done with this interview, is it possible I could buy you lunch? I just would love to pick your brain. And he said, son, I don't have time to do that today. How about you just ask me one question? And I said, <laugh>, okay. Hmm. Well, what do you do to maintain your cognitive fitness into your seventies and eighties and later years? That's my question. And as a true teacher, he of course said, well, what do you think? And I said, well, I think nutrition, I think brain games, you know, you know, I gave him a few answers. And he said, those are all good answers. But in my opinion, in my research, I think the number one thing to maintain your mental cognitive fitness is physical fitness. I've been riding a bike or doing physical exercise for, for the last 50 years on a near daily basis. And I responded, that's funny. 'cause I also been working out for over 30 years and my wife calls me a moron on a daily basis, <laugh>. And without missing a Pete, he goes, well, son, you might be a moron. <Laugh> <laugh>.

Chad Richardson (06:25):

I go, well, thank you. And I'm withdrawing that offer of lunch, sir. So yeah, so that was my experience there. But what a brilliant person. And just how wonderful to see somebody so sharp and so alive with life, you know, in late years, it inspires you. So so I finished, I I grew tired of the, the travel and the investigations as far as there's a lot, a lot, a lot of paperwork. I know it's hard to believe in, in federal government work. I mean, it's, I I was a homicide detective and I did less paperwork and a homicide investigation. So it, it just became more, you know, it just wasn't as much fun anymore. And I was leaning more and more towards the, the filmmaking aspect. So

Larry (07:12):

I thought you were gonna say maintaining cognitive ability Yeah. That you had to keep learning new things.

Chad Richardson (07:22):

Right? Yeah. That was one of the things he said later on. And you know, I think the biggest lesson is, is to go out there and try to seize life every day. 'cause As you know, we get older, we have pain from different things. We have injuries, we have illnesses, but it's just trying to go out and still seize life. And so I, and that's a big part of my, the movie is about that

Larry (07:51):

You the types of writing you were doing, you started off as a novelist,

Chad Richardson (07:58):

Right? So I, I wrote, I gravitated obviously naturally to police thrillers. So I throw, I wrote a police thriller called Jolly Jane, and that followed up the second in the series called the Greeley Chronicles. And and then I wrote a family drama called Iris Valley, and they all received great reviews. The problem in, in the book industry is for example, Amazon has about 15 million books and are stable at any given time. So for you to break through there, you have to build an author brand, not a book title brand. The key is you have to have people want to read your stuff. And the problem for me is that that puts you as the center of attention. And unless I have to, I don't like to be the center of attention ever. I like behind the scenes. So it's, it's more of it turned into a more natural fit for me to screen write and direct, because then I don't have to be in front of the camera. So that, that was just a better fit for me.

Larry (08:57):

So you wrote a multiple screenplays?

Chad Richardson (09:01):

Yeah, so and this is, I, I started writing screenplays and I I just fell in love with it. I absolutely fell in love with it, and I just write stories from the heart. And over the past nine years, I've written probably 15 or 20 screenplays. I've been out to Hollywood pitched to producers, to companies that I had an agent at one time. And it is extremely hard for a number of reasons for a screenwriter to break in. It's almost, it's not impossible, but it's, it's very, very difficult for you know, one, nobody truly knows what's gonna work because there's so many pieces of the puzzle. So anybody tells you that they can guarantee a hit is not telling the truth because there's just too many variables in the, in the process of filmmaking. And nobody wants to take a chance on an unknown.

Chad Richardson (09:58):

It's just too dangerous. And then you have packaging where you know, most of the big agencies, they like to package their, their actors that they have on, on con under contract with their screeners, with their directors. So you can't break into that circle. You know, people ask me, they say, why are some of these movies, these stars are in so horrible when there's so much material? And the reason why is because they're not allowed access to other material. They're just being given what part of that package structure. And that's, and that's a shame. It hurts us viewers in the long run. So,

Larry (10:39):

So you decided to take matters into your own hands?

Chad Richardson (10:43):

Yeah, so I, I had, I have a friend of mine, Smitty. He was, he was, we were SWAT buddies. I was a swat cop for years, and when he retired, he went in to the industry as an armorer. So he provides all the weapons on set, and he immediately, such a great guy, he immediately got in and just exploded. And he, you know, he does Spider-Man, black Panther, you know he's doing a movie right now with Ben Affleck called the Accountant Two. And so his knowledge is, is fantastic of the industry. And he was talking to a director called Ross and Thurber, who is, he did red notice with, with Ryan Reynolds, gal Gado and The Rock. He's the director and writer behind that. And my buddy Mty was talking to about, about me, and Mr. Thurber said, dead serious. Okay, show me what he is made.

Chad Richardson (11:43):

And Sumi said, well, he hasn't made anything. He hasn't been able sell anything, sell anything. He said, well, that's absolutely no excuse in this day and age. You can film a movie with an iPhone. Why doesn't your friend have material to prove that he's a good filmmaker? And I think that was the biggest catalyst, you know, for yeah, I need to get off my butt and I need to, to go after it because it's just, it's not gonna come easy. And so we, we obviously reached out to friends and family, some investors, and we were able to secure funding for what I felt was a very strong screenplay that was Bad Senator. And and that's how Bad Senator was born is, is, I really want to tell that story.

Larry (12:30):

So let's talk about Bad Senator.

Chad Richardson (12:33):

Sure. 

Larry (12:34):

Where did you film it? Or record it, right? 

Chad Richardson (12:40):

Yeah, filming was amazing. We, my parents live at a, in a community called Dell Webb in Ocala, Florida, and they lived there for over 20 years. When my father passed away about six years ago, my mother still lives there. And going down there and visiting them, visiting friends and family in the village is also, I, I just, I saw some amazing moments of humanity, you know in the movie as an example, we have what's called the Widow Group. The Widow Group gets together every Thursday and they commemorate and, and talk about their lost loved ones. And they probably have a few too many cocktails and have, and they just have a great time. And it's such a beautiful moment. Each Thursday they welcome new members, and and we, I have the actual widow group in the, in my movie, which was an honor to me because I've seen such compassion with these people, and I've just seen these moments that are just amazing.

Chad Richardson (13:43):

And and you see, you see people your age, my age, older people embracing life, enjoying it, seizing it. And and I was so struck by how courageous this is and how, how wonderful. And so I wanted to write a story about it. And the story I wrote is about a retired senator who's an absolute narcissist, which they do tend to cra rise to the top, we know with our politicians, you know, and he's there in the end stage his life. And he realizes he has nobody. He has awards, he's sat with the president, but he really has nothing. He's, he lost love of his life. He lost respect and admiration of his daughter, and his only friend is a, a retired, bitter, disgruntled marine veteran because nobody else likes either one of them in the community. So they, they stick together by default.

Chad Richardson (14:42):

And it's kind of that Walter Mattau Jack Lemon adversarial relationship, which, you know, you and I, my kids don't know those guys, but I love those movies, and I just, those are a couple of my favorite actors. So it has that, that energy between those two. And, but the center, no matter what he tries to do, he's stuck, you know, because he, it's so hard to break from those old habits. So when he does try to do better, he, he falls back and falters and, and makes a poor choice. And we get to watch as a viewer this comical but yet painful, yet emotional journey that he goes on. And what happens is a a, a very quirky, super interesting person called Iris Hope moves in between them and they don't like it. They wanna, they want to take her out. So in their way, they try to take her out and she ends up beating them in their own games.

Chad Richardson (15:42):

And in the process she becomes, goes from a, an enemy to a dear friend who helps 'em to overcome the obstacles that they face. And and we get to watch that. And it's, what was interesting is, I'd say the best thing I've done out of all of this, and I made some really great decisions. The best thing is I, I picked this amazing cast that read this story and just dived in Larry 120%. You know, for example, Rob Moore plays Jocko Stone, and in the original screenplay Jocko lost his leg in combat and he's upset, he feels the government dumped him when he was a career vet. And we've seen this how many times, and I wanna touch on that story about our veterans that are coming back now with catastrophic injuries, because modern medicine is saving them. But you still have all these war wounds, not just physical, but emotional, mental wounds that are soldiers that we're so proud of and should be that they're dealing with.

Chad Richardson (16:45):

So I wanted to touch on that subject, and I wanted to deal with it. And I wanted to hopefully help military veterans that they relate to Jocko's story. And I, I think we did a pretty good job of it. But Rob said to me, he goes, I have a devastating injury and I've never disclosed it or talked about it, but I, I'm willing to do this for this movie. And, and you, and he goes, I know the cost of of replacing my leg and making it look like I'm amputated. I'm willing to do it. And I'm like, are you sure? Because it's not just me who's gonna see this, the world is gonna see this injury. And so on the day we shot it, we, we closed the set. We just had the bare minimum. And when you see it on stage, it, it's very tender and emotional and it's so real.

Chad Richardson (17:40):

We are getting choked up watching it. It was really tough to film. But that, that's the lengths that I go to. And but our, our Bob Gallagher plays senator Richard Van Sutton, you know, he read the, the, the script and just, just loved the story. And he brought things to the table. I could not believe, I mean, it's, it's how many actors can pull off comedy and drama. You know, he had us laughing, and I don't wanna talk about the scene 'cause I, I, I would love for your viewers to watch it, but I mean, he does a one scene where we actually lost probably his best take. 'cause We were all crying in the background. The, the cast, I mean the crew, like, we couldn't hold it together. He totally surprised us with his performance. And and I didn't see it coming and I wrote the, the, the scene.

Chad Richardson (18:33):

So I mean, it just, you know, we have one stunt and and Vanessa Na, who plays Iris Hope, and she's, she's this, I mean, she's like, she is Iris Hope, she's this beautiful, quirky, wonderful woman that just embraces life and has that odd personality that you just adore. And but she wanted to do the stunt herself <laugh> like, yeah, I can't afford to lose you Vanessa, and I appreciate it, but at your age you should never be doing, you know, that type of stuff. And she's like, I'll do it. And I go, wow, let's, we'll, we'll work it out, don't worry about it. So we'll

Larry (19:16):

Take a look at the trailer in a few minutes and

Chad Richardson (19:19):

Yeah, great. You can talk over

Larry (19:20):

That or just let us listen to it. Yeah, let me show a couple of pictures and you can tell us who they are.

Chad Richardson (19:28):

Sure. That's, that's Family Richardson. So that's the team, that's our base team right there. That and my mother in front. Unfortunately, my father's gone at this point, but yes, that is our team.

Larry (19:45):

So that's the, that's the back staff.

Chad Richardson (19:50):

Yeah, that's the team. And, and let's see. Yeah, let me put on my glass. Yeah. But that, that's our team. Yeah. That's the core.

Larry (19:59):

Okay.

Chad Richardson (20:03):

This is some of the wonderful seniors that, so what was amazing was we had to go in front of the HOA in our web to explain what we wanna do. Because, you know, there are people that question, is this gonna be an invasion of privacy? You know, nobody, people don't trust filmmakers. Some people don't trust filmmakers. But we went, we went in front of the HOA and I explained the story and it was a live recording of the HOA meeting. And because of that, which came out of nowhere for us, is we literally had over 200 sit residents from the villages in this community. Step 'em, say, we wanna volunteer, we wanna be part of this story. And I mean, it was amazing. We had, we had to turn away, you know, volunteers at times. 'cause We had so many people that wanted to help us. So that said a lot about our story, and it, it really made us feel like, wow, we are on a mission here. We're on a mission to inspire people and to help people. And so it felt really great that these people I mean, we got meals brought to us. Karen is a retired chef. She came forward and said, Hey, I'll make you some great meals. And I mean, it was incredible. I wish you was my mother, to be honest with you. Great.

Chad Richardson (21:24):

That's, oh, that's obviously me. That's my mother on the right. That's Sheila and Dottie are two amazing women that they did such a great job. And they're part of the widow group that actually added more scenes because it's, they're just naturals. They're na Dottie has a scene that that scored really high in our screening, which was just so funny. And she's taken so much heat from her friends because of me making her do this scene and saying these words. But she absolutely loved it. And she's such a good sport. It was wonderful. It, so here's a great story. So that's Rob Moore on the left. That's Bob Galler, the senator. And then you have Roger Byers. So again, so many things happened that were so magical. There's a place called the Orange Blossom Opry in Weirs Dale, Florida. It's right down the street from the villages.

Chad Richardson (22:23):

It's the hidden gem of Florida professional retired musicians go there to play. And it's some of the best music you'll ever hear in your life, Larry. I mean, incredible. My parents have been going there for over 20 years. It's one of the rare times I've ever seen my dad dance. You got up and dance in front of people, which is shocking. So we had all these beautiful memories from this place, and I, I really, really, really wanted to film there. And no matter how many times I tried, I called, I went in person, I tried to have meetings with Mr. Byers and I could not get through. And then one day I received a phone call and it's Roger. And he says, are you Chad Richardson? I say, yes. He goes, can you, can you stop calling me <laugh>? And I said, no, I can't.

Chad Richardson (23:10):

I have to. I give me five minutes to tell you what I'm trying to do, and then if you tell me no, then I will not bother you anymore. So five minutes led to 20 minutes to 30 minutes to an in-person meeting with him and his beautiful wife, Heather, which led a couple more meetings. And they read the script. And again, the script sold itself. They said they love the script, they love the story, and they, they, they opened, they opened the place up completely. We could do anything at their Opry. So we went from not being allowed in there to, you can do whatever you want, we wanna support this project. And so it was amazing for me. And then Bobby Randall, Bobby Randall's this incredible guitarist singer that started the band, Sawyer Brown, that's everybody in the music industry in country knows Bobby Randall. He's such a talent. And unbelievably Bobby Randall and a professional singer from California, Carly Naff, wrote and recorded the big song in our movie. And I'm not sure how to express what an honor that is for me to have some people of this talent sing this beautiful song. And it, and it is an amazing song. And I I just can't believe it's in our movie, to be honest with you. So, I mean, these sings kept happening that were incredible.

Larry (24:37):

Okay, one more picture.

Chad Richardson (24:40):

Yeah. So I, that's Bob and I, I, I had this scene with this beer helmet. He gets it as a birthday gift from his grandson. And Bob was such a great sport. He was willing to make a complete fool himself, <laugh>. So we really took advantage of Bob's good spirit. And that's Paula Leeberg, one of the production assistants who also saved me. 'cause I had an actress cancel at the last minute, and she stepped in boldly and did a scene that was a, a little bit tough to do, but she's such good sport about it. She did great. So,

Larry (25:24):

Okay, let's see what we can do about getting the trailer on on screen.

Chad Richardson (25:31):

Yeah, great.

Speaker 4 (25:39):

This is a decision, not take it lightly, but with due regard for the health and safety of each individual and member of this wonderful community. You understand the consequences of being late. I can't believe you just said that to me. I did iron it. Mother

Speaker 5 (26:06):

Can't do that. You cheated.

Speaker 6 (26:08):

Unfortunately, your father had a fatal flaw. He couldn't break free from his first love.

Speaker 5 (26:14):

Who is the other person

Speaker 6 (26:16):

Himself?

Speaker 4 (26:17):

Of course. If we must provide your fair establishment with a flare of enrichment,

Speaker 5 (26:23):

You don't mind. You

Speaker 6 (26:36):

Remember,

Speaker 4 (26:37):

How could I ever forget? Don't answer that. Eliana and

Speaker 7 (26:42):

I are here to support her boyfriend. Billy,

Speaker 5 (26:51):

Are you out of your mind? That's always been your problem. Do it your way. Ellie, all you had to do was play the song. Dad can't

Speaker 4 (27:01):

Possibly think a man of my statue would go running into a wall of fire.

Speaker 5 (27:15):

I got 20 ever in a sack by five. We got a stumper.

Chad Richardson (27:20):

Yeah. Is Vanessa one good

Speaker 5 (27:22):

Be to knock her right on

Speaker 8 (27:23):

Off there? It's gotta be against a lot of looks this good. Batshit

Speaker 5 (27:27):

Crazy

Speaker 8 (27:28):

Because baby, I feel real good. And I wish y'all, it's gotta be against a lot of good. You believe.

Speaker 5 (27:39):

Nonsense.

Speaker 8 (27:40):

Watch out now. Everybody wants

Speaker 5 (27:43):

Out. Watch out. Watch out. You remember?

Speaker 9 (27:50):

And I could make my famous triangle pasta with sausage, but unfortunately I'm out of sausage.

Speaker 5 (28:01):

Yeah,

Chad Richardson (28:02):

We lost.

Larry (28:18):

Wow.

Chad Richardson (28:20):

Yeah. Yeah. I haven't seen it in a while. Think that brings back memories. I'll, I'll give you a behind the scenes one. So Vanessa, you saw our charact, Iris Hope on top of the roof of the clubhouse, which we of course were not allowed to do. But just to show your commitment, we had to figure out how to make that happen. And so obviously we used some special effects, but to do it, we had to put her, she actually climbed on top of my 37 foot to Hauler RV and stood up there and danced on the top of my RV in a, on a day that was like 20, 25 mile per hour winds. And then I had to hide behind her and lay flat on the top of the RV and hold her legs. Like from her <laugh>, like from her knees down. I had to hold her so she didn't fall and flop off the the rv. So I mean, that's the kind of commitment that we had with our actors. I mean, whatever we asked 'em they did. It is incredible.

Larry (29:21):

So let me ask one important question. Where can the film be seen?

Chad Richardson (29:28):

Yeah, I wish I had that answer. So we signed a distribution agreement and unfortunately in this industry, which I'm still frustrated with, and it's just part of the process, is they will not give a release date. So we've, they, we've licensed the movie with at least five different streamer companies like Amazon, Roku and some, some other ones. But we don't know when they're gonna be released. So, you know, I grow more impatient every day because we want to get this out to the world and we wanna share it, but we don't it. They've told us within the next three months is what we're looking at. So that could be tomorrow, that could be next month. We just don't know. So I, I hope your patrons will be patient and I hope they're interested in seeing it. I mean, we really targeted and focus on telling a story that's meaningful to senior citizens. But I will say we have a, we have two young actors Kaylee Am Monte plays Eliana Van Sutton, Richard Van Sutton's daughter, and Hunter Cole plays Billy. And so we, we have a love story built into the story and and it's really sweet. It's really, really nice. And these actors again, man, they really brought it so

Larry (30:52):

Well when it is released, come back on

Chad Richardson (30:58):

And yeah, I'd love to

Larry (30:59):

At least tell the listeners here and the viewers here how to get in touch and see the film.

Chad Richardson (31:06):

Yeah, I'd love to tell. So, and come on back on any time. So just lemme know.

Chad Richardson (31:11):

Yeah, thank you.

Larry (31:12):

Your Company is Shadow Dreamworks,

Chad Richardson (31:16):

Right? And Shadow Dreamworks, LLC. We're working on right now. The, the screenplay that I would love to develop is a faith-based screenplay called 12 Stones. And, and it's a story of a cop, a marine veteran, and a priest. And all three are, are very troubled. And these three end up intersecting and colliding with each other. And and that leads to a, a path to salvation. It leads to a road of redemption for all of them. And it's just a really, we wanna, our team, we, we really wanna focus on telling stories that inspire and that people relate to everyday people. You know, as a police officer, you know, I was a patrol officer. I was an undercover cop for several years. I bought and sold drugs. My parents weren't very proud of me during that period of my life. But you know, I was a youth crimes investigator, homicide detective, swat.

Chad Richardson (32:24):

So I seen a lot of bad stuff. I've seen a lot, lot. And, you know, where I worked, we were a high crime, high activity area. And so, and I'm an empath, so I really related. And it really, I struggled at times to deal with other people's trauma and to see innocent people, you know, hurt and killed. It's a very difficult thing to see when you care about people. And but I think it, it's really given me a, a, an advantage in, in other screenwriters because I've lived it, because I've seen it so close. I've seen the worst in people and I've seen the best in people. And so, you know, and in life, Larry, you and I, we've been around, you're a little older than I am, probably <laugh>, but I'm 58. Yeah. But you know what, that life gives you so much experience. You know, we're, again, starting this journey at, at my stage of the game. I do think it again gives me an advantage because I've, I've dealt with life so much.

Larry (33:38):

What is the what is your website?

Chad Richardson (33:43):

It's www shadow dreamworks llc.com if they're interested in funding a project on all ears. Of course, that's the biggest battle for any indie filmmaker. So yeah,

Larry (34:00):

It's a battle for podcasters too.

Chad Richardson (34:03):

Yeah, it is. It sure is. 

Larry (34:07):

You said something that was interesting. You mentioned that filmmaking was a retirement gift to yourself, right? That's an interesting way of putting it.

Chad Richardson (34:19):

Yeah.

Larry (34:20):

Do you wanna explain that?

Chad Richardson (34:22):

Yeah. So again, my dream wasn't to be a police officer. I was very proud of my dad. I'm proud. I, I had, I'm so respectful and proud of our police officers, especially today, police officers, what they face today is unbelievable. And we could have a long discussion about what they face today. But I didn't, I, that wasn't my first dream. So when I, when I retired and then I started chipping away on the side, it was, it's the first thing I ever did. Selfishly, for me, to be honest with you, writing is, is in a sense a selfish pursuit. And it's a, it's a therapeutic pursuit and it brings me great joy. You know, my, my family brings me great joy. But you know why? My wife and I have talked about this, it's separate. It's a separate thing. You know, they're not all one thing.

Chad Richardson (35:18):

And and I highly, highly recommend people that you know, that get older, go for it. The worst thing that can happen is you're in the same place, you know? And in this industry, you get millions of nos. You get No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. And the key is just go one more day. Try one more day. And, you know and like I said, with Bad Senator, I wrote a story that, that anybody that read it resonated with them. It, it touched them. And that eventually is what, what sold it and what was created that. But, you know, that was through years of writing and effort and never giving up till the right formula hit. And not that some my other, some my other screenplays I think are fantastic too. And it's just based on years now of reading probably 3000 screenplays, a dozen screenwriting, books, interviews, blogs. I mean, I, I'm at this point, I know I'm a pr pretty professional screenwriter. So but bad centered is really very special to me.

Larry (36:34):

Chad, this has been incredible. I really want to thank you for coming on specifically for seniors. And please, please let me know when that film is available and where, and

Chad Richardson (36:50):

All right, Larry, thank you so much. Thanks

Larry (36:52):

Again.

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