Awakening in the Northwest Territories

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Announcer (00:06):

You are connected and you are listening to specifically for seniors, the podcast for those in the remember When Generation. Now, here's your host, Dr. Larry Barsh.

Larry (00:30):

Today on specifically for seniors, we're going to meet a man with so many stories to tell many, too many for a single podcast. So we'll just talk about one today. Alistair Henry, retired at 57, shed his possessions and went to live with the First Nations band in the Northwest Territories. After that, he left Canada's North to volunteer, working with local NGOs. Those are nonprofit organizations in Bangladesh. After that, he and his wife enjoyed backpacking on a budget for four months at a time in Central America and Asia in their sixties. In 2020, he endured a double lung transplant. Today Alistair and I will talk about one part of his story and one of his four books, awakening in the Northwest Territories, one Man Search for Fulfillment. Welcome to specifically for seniors. Alice. There. It's great to have. Thank you, Larry. On

Alastair Henry (01:47):

What would you like to know?

Larry (01:48):

Let's introduce our listeners to the first part of your life up to age 57. Tell us about your childhood, your upbringing, your education, occupation, and how you got to retire at such a young age.

Alastair Henry (02:02):

Okay. I was born in Glasgow, Scotland to parents from the Channel Islands, jersey, and Gurnsey in the English Channel. They were evacuated in 1939 when the Germans invaded and occupied. So they were in Glasgow for six years. And it was only in 1945 when the Germans finally surrendered and left. We went back to the islands to live for a while. But my mother had a bad heart and the doctor said, you know, you gotta go and live somewhere where the land is flatter. You can't go pushing PRMs up and down hills all day. So we went to Bolton, Lancaster, and that's where I grew up, and that's where I got my accent. And then at 19, well at 18, I fell in love with a 17 year old and we'd only been dating a couple of months when she turned around and said, I'm going to Canada.

Alastair Henry (03:02):

I'm immigrating with my family. And I said, no way. You can't leave me. I'm gonna come. Four months later, I said goodbye to my parents, my siblings and I went down to Liverpool, got on a boat and came out to Canada to join her. She was 18, I was 19. We got married, had three children, and life was wonderful. I got into the corporate life, really. I worked very, very hard. I became very, very ambitious, very goal, goal-oriented ha high achiever. And I wanted to be a vice president by the time I was 40 and I was as a vice president of finance. But in my forties, I began wondering, you know, why, why did I feel so anxious? It didn't feel totally happy. I thought, well, maybe I gotta work for myself, you know, working for other people. Maybe that's it. And maybe I need to find work for myself to find this personal fulfillment. So in 19 whatever, 98, I started a logistic, a freight brokerage company with my son. We worked hard at it over the next 12 years. Provider did very well. There was a, went from nothing to 12 million in sales and I sold it. So I retired. So I went to live in this beautiful country retreat, if you like, 50 acres, five ponds and a river running through it.

Alastair Henry (04:40):

But after two years, I was beginning to feel anxious again and restless and the novelty of having all this time to play golf and grass, he was wearing off. And I thought, you know, is this it? Is this all there is, is this all I'm gonna do for the rest of my life? I'm only 59. And the answer to that was, no, there's gotta be more to life. I didn't wanna go back in the city, didn't wanna go back in the corporate world. So I thought, well, I need an adventure. I need to set off on some sort of adventure, something with a bit of an edge to it. And that's when I found this job in the Northwest Territories.

Larry (05:27):

So you had a job in the Northwest Territories, and that's what brought you to a First Nations band?

Alastair Henry (05:37):

Yeah, I was looking around on the internet and this first Nations band in the Northwest Territories was looking for a general manager to run the development corporations. But the really interesting thing for me was they were also looking for some help in negotiating some agreements with de Beers. The diamond mines diamonds were discovered in 1992 in the Northwest Territories and B H P Bulletin and Rio Tinto were already up there with their diamond mines. And the beers had two properties on Snap Lake and Kennedy Lake. And before they could go ahead, they needed to get agreement from the que Denny First Nations band. They needed a participation agreement whereby people from the community get to work at the mines and a contribution agreement, which is really money for land because they'd be, you know, drilling and affecting the environment, if you like. There was a negotiation about dollars. So the the band got money every year from the from, you know, the diamond companies. So I applied, had some interviews, offered me the job. So I set out and went to Lutz. Okay.

Larry (07:12):

This wasn't exactly going unprepared to the Northwest Territories.

Alastair Henry (07:19):

Oh, it was? Well, you know, back in those days I wasn't Googling anything. I mean, I could look things up in the encyclopedia and go to the library, but I said, oh, I didn't really do a lot of probably I'd done a lot of research. I would never have gone. But it was like going to a different world. It was like leaving earth and landing on the moon or some planet.

Larry (07:43):

In what way?

Alastair Henry (07:46):

Well, the land well first of all, it's a flying community. You have to go to Yellowknife, which is the end of the road in North America. It's the end of the road. From there, you just take little regional planes to go to these little communities. So you got a 45 minute little propeller driven plane due east on the east arm of Great Slave Lake. That's where this little community was only 300 just rocks and puddles. It's totally undeveloped. The trees are scr cuz it's on, just on the border, the tree line, the trees are scrawny, scraggly, no more than 10 feet high. It's a big sky, huge sky. The sun doesn't really set in the summer till about 11 at night, and it comes up again at two. And in the winter it's only it only pops up above the horizon for a couple of hours. It's cold, you know, very cold in the winter, minus 40, minus 50. But the chipper one, it, you know, as a told they different world. They've, they're not they've not been exposed really to our culture. Like I'm a product of North America, of Canada, you know, collectively, I share Canadian values, Canadian habits, if you like. So to go there, it was so very different. They were so very different spiritually, culturally, traditionally. It was wonderful.

Larry (09:39):

What, what band did you join exactly? You mentioned the chipper ones.

Alastair Henry (09:45):

Yeah. Well, let me I would imagine Del La most of your listeners are not Canadians. They're probably US citizens, eh, so let me just give you talk a little bit about Canada. It's a huge country. Hmm. Second biggest in the world, next to Russia. In land mass. It's bordered by three oceans, the Atlantic Pacific and the Arctic. And there's three indigenous bands in Canada. You've got the Inuits, which we used to call Eskimos. They love, they live right at the top of the world on the coast. But today we call 'em Inuit. Yeah. The Denne, which we used to call Indians, they live on the in, on inside Canada. And there's 630 communities. Now, you gotta remember back in those days, you know, in the early days, and they've been here for thousands of years, all of them thousands. Unbelievable. There's petroglyphs and they, you know, they've done carbon dating and whatever, thousands of years.

Alastair Henry (10:54):

But of course they weren't aware of each other. Canada is so big. Some of them were in traded, but most of them had no idea. So the chipper ones they're from northern Alberta, actually. There were no magic. So for thousands of years, they used to move up in March to the barren lands, the tundra with the Beverly Caribou herd, 400,000, and then back to the tree line, the Arboreal Forest in September for the winter. And that was what they did. And they just totally lived off the caribou and fish. So in Canada, the 630 communities lot care is one of them. There's 50 different nations with languages, spiritual beliefs, traditions, all very different. So it's not one great big homogenous, you know, Deni Nation, they're all very, very different. So what else can I tell you?

Larry (12:03):

And you, you li you lived with the Chippewas.

Alastair Henry (12:06):

Yeah, the Chippewas. Yeah.

Larry (12:10):

How, how did you introduce yourself and tell them why you were

Alastair Henry (12:15):

There? Well, they, you know, they knew I was coming. And I, you know, you got 300 people in a community. It's one great big community. In fact, nearly everybody's related because they call me Whitey. I wasn't that didn't bother me, you know? I thought, yeah, well, that's okay. And because I was an outsider, they came to me for advice. They said, can I run something by you? And they trusted because they knew I had I was from the outside, you know, I had sort of more worldviews and I'd be private. I'd be discreet. So they came to trust me. And I, I valued their I mean, originally at first it's like, you know, like, I, I didn't come here to be your personal counselor. Get outta here. You know, I, I, I, I'm a I'm a business person.

Alastair Henry (13:11):

But little by little they came to me with different things. And, you know, of course I came from the corporate world with all these best practices that none of them worked up there, you know, sort of company. We ran a couple of fire crews. So I had like 16 people on the payroll. And then I had some other people working for the government of Northwest Territories. So I had a big payroll. And so I said, you know, okay, you know, we get paid on the 15th and the first of every month. Well, the day after people came in and said, can I get in advance? It's like, no, I'm not gonna give you in advance. I'll give you advance. Everybody's gonna want an, so I turned him away. And then he came back and said, you know, I really, I mean, little Johnny needs some diapers.

Alastair Henry (14:04):

You know, so gradually it got to me, you know, and I thought, then I thought, well, what the heck? You know, they've worked, they've earned the money. I owe them the money. What the hell is this? Why should I hold off paying them for two weeks? What gives me the right? So, you know, I told them, I don't have a really good reason. They need the money. So I forgot about the payroll. Every segment of the 15th, you know, <laugh> sort of gave everybody an advance every day. And it worked out well. And, you know, I thought, wow, you know, that's amazing. And the other thing, Larry, is, you know, gluts, okay, there's only one grocery store. That's it. There's no bank, no atm, no stores. Most people didn't even have a telephone. They didn't have credit cards. So they'd come to me and say, can you, can you buy me something from the store in Yellowknife and have it shipped in and, and, you know, take it outta my pay.

Alastair Henry (15:08):

Well, first of all, I thought, no way, you know, I'm not gonna get into this. And then I thought, why not? I can share what I have, just want to share your skills, but I could share this too. So I called up, you know, I ordered the tent for the spiritual gathering. I had it flown out, and then I just took it out of her pay. No problem. So I became very valuable to the community as a financial resource. Yeah. But the thing of it is, it began to give me, give me joy. And that's something that I never felt in the working world. I'd always been in boardrooms and meetings, working with worksheets and budgets and, you know, numbers. And here I was working with people. And it, it, I was so pleased that I was in a position, you know, to give them advice or to help. So that was part of the awakening, my big awakening.

Larry (16:11):

So that, that was your epiphany. Ah-Huh <affirmative> changing from a corporate environment to working directly with people's lives.

Alastair Henry (16:20):

You know, it's, it's Mother Earth, father Sky, grandmother Ocean, and the siblings of the caribou and the fish. And they're so thankful. They always thank the creator. Whenever I went out with them fishing or hunting, so soon as an animal appeared, you know, they thanked the creator. And if we were out on Great Slave Lake and we stopped at a little island, the first thing they did was bend down, put some tobacco under a rock, and thank the land. You know, it's amazing. I thought this spirituality is so simple, yet refreshing, and it seemed so authentic. And it caused me to realize that, yeah, I'm just a part of nature. I'm not above it. And I thought about my culture that tends to use and abuse nature.

Alastair Henry (17:17):

I mean, we're polluted the world. They see themselves as you know, caregivers, protectors of the land. And what I noticed was, they're not greedy. They just take what they need. You know? So a lot of times when we were fishing, and there's so many big fish in there, lake in the gray, slave lake is amazing. You go out for half an hour, and man, you can catch two 20 pounders, and, and that's it. That's all you need. So you don't carry on fishing and come back with a whole boat load, you know? And I thought, that's nice, you know? Yeah, exactly. They're so humble and in that respect, well, they, they're living so simply. And the other thing I noticed, Larry they don't have expectations. They just live in the moment. They appreciate whatever happens. And I thought about, you know, like when I, when I first started in this job as general manager, you know, I set off there with my goals and objectives, and here's my expectations, what we're going to do today.

Alastair Henry (18:28):

You know? And I realized that at the end of the day, we never really ever achieved our goals and objectives and expectations. And I always felt disappointed. And then I start wondering, well, why didn't I achieve my expectation? I thought, well, it doesn't matter. I didn't, that's all there is to it. And then I started to really just appreciate everything, you know, whatever we did, I appreciated it. And if Johnny was hungover today, well, that's why he didn't work as good. But he, he showed up and he, he did his best. So all of a sudden I became aware that doing your best is all that matters. All that matters.

Larry (19:15):

So, so you started to

Alastair Henry (19:18):

Change as well? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So a lot of times the, you know, the government would call me and say, well, we need three guys on Friday. When the plane lands, can you arrange it? I said, yeah, sure, no problem. Now, in the past, I would go round and I would ask three people and they'd say, oh, yeah, yeah, thanks. I'll be there Friday. But when Friday came, they weren't there. They're out, they're gone fishing, they're gone hunting. So what I did is I just drove around town, wipe my window down, and said, Hey, Joe, you wanna walk today? Hop in. That's how I did it. Always found the labor I needed, but the government thought I was prearranging it, you know? But it's impossible to prearrange it. They don't commit. They don't want to know, they don't plan for tomorrow, next year. They don't have RSPs.

Alastair Henry (20:10):

And they don't worry like us. They just live in the moment. And, you know, you have to Larry, because the north is a very dangerous place. And if you're not mindfully aware, you can get into trouble very quickly. You know, there's blizzards, there's bears, there's ice. Hmm. So you have to be in the moment. Whereas, you know, before I was multitasking, man, I was, had a 10 or 12 things running through my mind. And I, I, I, I learned to let go of all of that and just stay in the moment. Whatever happens, happens, and just be, go with it. You know, go with the flow and make it up as you go. I love that <laugh>

Larry (21:00):

Living in Luci. K you tell a story of snow, you tell the story, getting Uhhuh twisted, listening snow mo snowmobiling across Great Slave Lake for five hours. Yeah. To get provisions from Yellowknife.

Alastair Henry (21:20):

Yeah. So what was it like? Well, you know, the prices, first of all, the selection and prices in the co-op store was astronomical. Some of the older residents, the other thing too, you know, the elders in in Luque didn't speak English. They only spoke Chippewan Kennedy. We bought snow machines and we went to Yara Knife to buy groceries. So we had a snow machine and a sled, and we went to across the Great Slave Lake, just going, Hmm, hundred kilometers an hour, 110. It's like a billiard table, flat, like a billard table. You got your headlights on and you can see little ridges where the ice bridged. So you just slow down, go over them, and then off you go again. So we went out, picked up our groceries. So we did that every month. And then the summer, I went out by boat with a resident, somebody from the community to get my groceries.

Alastair Henry (22:23):

But my, I gotta say, you know, I was eating a lot of lake trouts, I was doing a lot of fishing. And these lake trouts are big cuz you know, it's a very deep o lake, and there's nobody up there fishing. So these fish just get bigger and bigger and bigger. I think the biggest is a 55 pounder electrode, but most of the, most of the time I was catching 1215 pound, well, there's a lot of meat on that. Did me for the whole week, you know, <laugh> and I had it all sorts of different ways, you know, I, anyway, and caribou you know, there's still big hunters and gatherers. They're still living nomadic traditional lifestyles. They're still trapping and sending the hides out to Vancouver for auction. And they're try, you know, they're, they're trapping all sorts. Mar Martin foxes, wolverine, bears Tom, well in caribou. So there's a lot of caribou. So people would in the community just leave a leg of caribou <laugh> outside my front door, complete with hair and hoof and <laugh>. I just had to let it all thaw out and then cut it all up. It was amazing.

Larry (23:52):

Tell me about attending the 10 day spiritual gathering at Old Fort Reliance.

Alastair Henry (23:59):

Yeah. Well, Fort Reliance is the most eastern part. It's on a beach on the Great Slave Lake, but there's nothing there. There's just nothing there. It's just a place. But the community goes every year for 10 days, and they go as best they can. It takes at least five hours. I decided I wanted to go with an elder, but man, it took 10 hours because his boat was too heavy to be portage. So we had to go away. We had to go the long way around <laugh>, and that was quite a trip. So they put up the tents and the whole community goes, except for maybe the sick and some of the elderly, the the nurse texts, the nurse, there's only, there's a, he, there's a health center and Tex was the resident nurse. But of course, you gotta always have somebody else cuz she can't be on duty 24 7. So there's always a, another nurse comes in for three or four months at a time. But Tex was the resident nurse. So they get a plane and they fly it to TK and set it up as a, as a nursing station. And I took my little tent and put it up. But it's wonderful. It's just 10 days of feasting, dancing, drumming. And they built a big sweat and I really enjoyed the sweat. That was a really spiritual experience. They're going into the sweat

Larry (25:38):

And you use bare grease.

Alastair Henry (25:42):

Oh yes, that's right. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. I'm surprised you knew that. Yeah, yeah. Well, in the sweat you can't see anybody cuz they close the flap. It's pitch black except for the fire in the middle blazing away. And they pour all sorts of things on its sage. So you've got this amazing odor going on and that, that's taking you, I don't know whether there's any halluc, Jenny, but man, it, it's just a sensory experience, you know? And I'm sitting there, sitting there, and then all of a sudden a guy on my right nudged me and give me a tin. And he said, Bages, and you take it and you smear it on your body, but it covers up the pores. <Laugh>, it just increases the intensity of the heat and the pain. And you get to the point where you, you'd think, I've gotta get outta here. I'm just gonna die. But it's all part of the experience. But I didn't die. <Laugh>. Yeah, it was delicious. <Laugh>.

Larry (26:53):

And then you knew somebody named

Alastair Henry (26:55):

Vince. Well, in my novel, I call him Vince, he was actually called Tommy. But in my novel, I changed people's names, you know, just to sort of protect the innocent, if you like Tommy. Yeah. To Tommy Catholic was his name. And he was my boss and he invited me to his house for his anniversary for birthdays. I mean, everybody in the community was so welcoming. I mean, I, in my culture, right in Canada, like the states, eh, we we're kind of lonely. We, we come out of our driveway, we wave to our neighbor, but we really don't invite him in or do things with him. You know, everybody does their own thing. Well, there is a community, everybody does community events. The community hall was always full. And so Tommy invited me to various events with his family and he said, you want to come check my trap lines?

Alastair Henry (27:58):

And I said, I'd love to. So one Sunday afternoon I went and followed him into the bush to check his trap lines. And it was just a wonderful silent world of white, just beautiful. The sun was bright high in the sky. It was trapping Martins and my big boots. And he said, you know, get my tool bag. So I went back to his sled, pulled up his big tool bag, and he said, yeah, yeah, bring it, bring it. So I brought it and I pulled out this like big pliers. And that's when I noticed his hand was caught in a trap. It was caught in the trap. So with the pliers, I pull him down and I opened the trap and he pulled his hand out. And man, I said, you know what would've happened if I wasn't here? Tommy, you know, you, you're trapped in the, you're in the trap.

Alastair Henry (28:54):

You can't get up, you can't leave. Cuz the trap is stated frozen to the ground. His sled is like, you know, 50, 50 feet away and nobody knows where his traps are. Nobody, nobody comes around. I don't think he's, even, his wife knows where the traps are. Trappers were quiet. You know, there were secretive about him. He said, I don't want to think about it. That's all he said. But you see, that's what I'm saying. If you're not mindfully aware, you can easily get into trouble. Now you've been trapping all his life. It never had this tr I said, how long, how often does this happen? Said never. I said, well, good job. I'm here today. Wow, man,

Larry (29:49):

This is a different life than those of us who grew up in civilized. Yeah. Quote unquote civilized areas. What would your life have been if you didn't travel to the Northwest Territory?

Alastair Henry (30:06):

Well, you know, I think of that Larry, and I think, you know, there was many times when I said to myself, is this it? Is this all there is? I should have said, yeah, yeah. Be, be thankful al you work very hard. You're just taking it easy. You're reaping the benefits. So I would've spent maybe the rest of my life playing golf, cutting grass, <laugh>. But because I said no, and that's the thing, Larry, I learned to say yes. Not to say no. So when people ask me things a lot of people say, well, what if I refuse to go there? I don't like the what ifs. I just say, yes, something happens. Hey, I'll make another decision. If it didn't work out what I'd get on a plane and come back, no big deal. And they say, well what if this, what if that? And I think in my culture, well, your culture too, Larry. Fear is a big part. It sells products. We're very fearful and that's why we're well what if, and we don't like to change upset our, we don't wanna leave our comfort zone. So a lot of times we just say, no, I'm just gonna stay here in my comfort zone because I know this, you know, and I don't want to go into the unknown. But if you don't go, you don't experience, you know? So I always said yes, you know,

Larry (31:35):

In your estimation, what is the larger purpose of life? Now? There's an easy question.

Alastair Henry (31:44):

Yeah. Well, you know, Larry, when I was in when I was in Benig, my country retreat, you know, and everything in my life, I thought, why am I not happy? I have every, I got a beautiful wife, beautiful kids, great job, beautiful home. You know, what, what else is there? What more could you ask for? And yet, I, I knew deep down something was missing, you know? And I thought about it, I thought, you know, oh nine, whatever billion of us, 7, 8, 9, on this planet, all we want at the end of the day is to be happy. That's all. So what is happiness? It, it's really a state of mind. When I was in the corporate world, I was so ambitious. I was always changing my job every two years for more money, more responsibility, bigger car, just chasing, chasing, you know, success, success.

Alastair Henry (32:44):

Thinking that, okay, oh we, and I was the same. I was a <inaudible>. All my colleagues were the same. We were all on the same treadmill. We just, well one day, you know, we're gonna retire. And we did. And that's it. It is not the be all and end all. It's more to life than retirement and taking it easy. And I'm so glad that I reacted when I said, is this all you're going to do? And I said, no, it isn't. I'm going to set off on a sense of adventure and see what else there is and hold their macro. You know, I've done more in the last 20 years than I did really in all the rest of my life. You know, I was living very frugally. Monastically, that's another story. But it was the simplicity and the frugality that I realized I don't need anything.

Alastair Henry (33:42):

All I need is a, you know, I just need a bed. I need some utensils. That's all I need. I don't need a lot of furnishings and, you know, three bedrooms, two baths, I don't need that. And a lot of times when we went out, obviously, you know, we just had to go in the bushes and anyway, yeah. So I realized that you know, and then I realize poor people all over the world can be happy. And then we tend to say, oh, they're poor. You know, they're object, they poor. But you know what I found out later in life when I did my volunteering, they're poor. They, they don't have much, but they're happy. And you know, the big thing Larry family, that's what makes 'em happi, community and family, most important things in life. Absolutely.

Larry (34:39):

Tell us about your book.

Alastair Henry (34:44):

Well, when I went to Tsk, my daughter gave me a journal and she said, dad, I want you to write in this cuz we know it's gonna be very different up there. I said, okay, no problem, Nikki. So I, I began writing it the very first day. I'd have a sense of obligation cuz I thought, you know, she's gonna ask me one day, how's the writing coming, dad, <laugh>, I didn't want to disappoint her, but man, so much was happening. I was scribbling away every night and then I was scribbling away notebooks. I was just, I was getting it all recorded. Now of course a lot of it is developing and of course, at any point in time I can't see it developing. I don't know what's gonna happen tomorrow or next week, next month. So by recording it in the moment, you're capturing the essence of that moment.

Alastair Henry (35:39):

So at the end, I was there for two years now, it was really a strange Larry, cuz the two years felt like a lifetime. I kept thinking back, trying to remember what did I do before I came to Luque And I was having trouble cuz I seemed so long ago. This two years seemed like a big lifetime. Anyway, I left the community and I took all those notes and I decided, I'm gonna go to Costa Rica, I'm gonna go to a little village on the border with Panama for a month, and I'm gonna take all of this stuff, key it into word, play around with it be because it wasn't really readable. And I thought, I can't give this to Nikki, you know, I, so I did that. I went for a whole month by myself to this guest cabin. And the strange thing was, as I was walking through it, some of it I was just deleting because it didn't go anywhere.

Alastair Henry (36:43):

And other parts was, you know, threads. And I could see that it was the beginning of something. So I carried on writing and writing and writing. But I realized as I was writing how I was changing <laugh> because I would write, you know, in my journal, you know, Joe came to to see me today. He asked me could I help him. I told him, you know, who does he think I am, personal counselor, you know, I'm not here for that. And then yeah, 18 months, it was my, how can I help you, Joel? You know, so it came out. So I, I actually, I went back to Canada, printed off my book, and I called it the learning of Billy Hayes. And it started when this man went into Luk and when he flew out, and that was it. And I gave it to lots of people and they said, wonderful.

Alastair Henry (37:39):

But it, it behooves the reader to like, who was this man that, when he went, when he went in there, who was he? Where did he come from and what did he do afterwards? So I went back to the computer and carried on writing. And that was really the starting of my writing career. And I've been writing a lot, but I thought, you know, my daughter not gave me a journal. Wow. I wouldn't have been an author just like that. So I wrote this book, I went right, it became a biography because I thought, well, okay, who is this man? Well, he was a corporate man, but where did he come from? So I went right back. So the whole thing is my biography. It's called the Awakening, awakening in the Northwest Territories. And at the back of the book, I list my awakenings like observations, you know, or yeah, op Awakenings, what did I learn? Yeah.

Larry (38:37):

And where can people get a copy of the book?

Alastair Henry (38:41):

Oh, it's available on Amazon, but I have a website. Well, if they go to my website, there's a buy button that'll take them to Amazon or Barnes and Noble or whatever. But if they go to my website, they can learn more about me. They can read excerpts from my book and they can read reviews. And my website is very simply alistair henry.com. Www alistair henry.com.

Larry (39:12):

Alistair, thanks so much for being on, specifically for seniors inspiring discussion. Would you consider coming back on the podcast to talk again?

Alastair Henry (39:24):

I would love to. I would love to. On, on any, any topic, Larry. I'd just like to share, you know, my life, my memories. And it does inspire a lot of people, in fact, about a lot of people you know, re review my book and say it changed my life. After I read your book, I made some key decisions in my life. And for, you know, I thought, well, that's what it's all about. I, I don't write a book for myself. You know, you write it for others to read and hope that they get something out of it. So I'm very happy.

Larry (39:59):

Thank you again. We'll talk again.

Alastair Henry (40:02):

Thank you, Larry.

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